Wendy (the other one) | December 29, 2012 | 9:16 pm
I’ve wanted to comment on this for days but kept my mouth shut. Think I’m gonna go ahead and throw in my 2 cents though. To be honest, I’m a little shocked at everyones attitude. It would be one thing if it didn’t run but not liking it because it’s old and ugly is, well, ungrateful. Doesn’t matter what something looks like if it serves its purpose. Especially when that something is free and you can’t afford it yourself. I was also shocked at your statement about the food. Even that wasn’t good enough. Hmmm.
Edie, you make a good point- dissing the van just because it’s ugly is bad form. I’ll give you that. However, this van broke down on their way home. That’s the problem you’re going to run into with 20+ year old vehicles. They’re often unreliable and this one proved to be such. MM needs to be able to rely on her transportation to get her to and from KC on a regular basis. And she’s transporting her children in this vehicle that breaks down, is unreliable and only has 2 seatbelts, one of which was gerryrigged. That’s not safe. It’s irresponsible to expect a family to be safe in such a car. I’m sorry if it sounds ungrateful but it’s the truth. You’re right, it was free- but with the repairs that this thing is likely to require due to its age and condition, it’s not free. MM can’t afford to replace all seatbelts and have cash on hand just in case this thing breaks down on her way to or back from KC. And what if its raining or snowing and she’s stranded for god knows how long with Ian in tow? It’s simply NOT practical or safe or reliable.
If all that was wrong was that it was ugly, I know she would get over the appearance but its more than that. If it has been 10 or even 15 years old that would have been better but that van is 27 years old. I was in middle school. Not many vehicles are reliable and sound once they hit the 20 year mark so yeah, I don’t blame her for being disappointed and upset. She needed a reliable car- instead she got what will likely be more headache and expenses.
Just my 2 cents. I mean no disrespect and I get your point but you need to look at the overall picture.
Michelle it didnt break down it has 2 gas tanks and one ran out of gas. And MM said in this post that her son says it runs great. The seatbelt thing sucks but is cheaper than buying a new car. So it runs great and the only thing I’ve seen mentioned after the gas tank issue was cleared up is how the van looks and that’s why I commented what I did. I mean no disrespect either
Personally, I was totally shocked that anyone would think a 27 year old vehicle was safe to give to anyone who had to depend on it to transport a family any distance, much less a family transporting a child in a wheelchair.
Ever had to count on a 20 + year old vehicle? I have. I drove a 1974 Chevy 4X4 shortbed for years because I could not afford anything else. We referred to it as “The Beast”
It was constant battle. Vehicles are not built to last that long and especially do not do well in this part of the country. Basically they rust and deteriorate away under that chassis.I don’t care how well you take care of them…the rust, the cold weather and just plain age..it all takes its toll.
I had to carry tools and a chiltons manual with me and learned how to sit in an engine compartment with the help of my 13 year old daughter and replace an alternator in the parking lot of my grocery store. I had the bolts rust out and break off from under the transmission, and it looked like it had bled to death in my driveway. Fortunately a neighbor took pity on me and rebuilt my tranny for the cost of the parts and filters.I started to smell gas and found that the gas lines had become so brittle from age that they were splitting and leaking gas n several places…the starter dropped because a bolt dropped out and I had to reset a starter in the same damned grocery store parking lot.The rear axle broke, the bolt in the steering arm rusted out and broke off with and I almost lost control. That was it..it was just NOT safe. I got rid of the damned thing and went without a vehicle for some time.
I agree with Angie, take the lift out, put it in something dependable and move on.
Wendy (the other one) | December 30, 2012 | 7:32 pm
You are not an ungrateful dickweed.
Susan | December 29, 2012 | 6:54 pm
MB2 deserves an award.
Laura | December 29, 2012 | 6:56 pm
It’s exactly as I pictured it. Fugly as all hell. Bless MB2 for wanting it. LOL Hope he realizes that thing isn’t going to be a chick magnet.
Michelle | December 29, 2012 | 8:59 pm
Blech!!!
T. | December 29, 2012 | 9:07 pm
Let’s do the time warp again………..
Wendy (the other one) | December 29, 2012 | 9:16 pm
I’ve wanted to comment on this for days but kept my mouth shut. Think I’m gonna go ahead and throw in my 2 cents though. To be honest, I’m a little shocked at everyones attitude. It would be one thing if it didn’t run but not liking it because it’s old and ugly is, well, ungrateful. Doesn’t matter what something looks like if it serves its purpose. Especially when that something is free and you can’t afford it yourself. I was also shocked at your statement about the food. Even that wasn’t good enough. Hmmm.
Edie | December 30, 2012 | 11:02 am
Edie, you make a good point- dissing the van just because it’s ugly is bad form. I’ll give you that. However, this van broke down on their way home. That’s the problem you’re going to run into with 20+ year old vehicles. They’re often unreliable and this one proved to be such. MM needs to be able to rely on her transportation to get her to and from KC on a regular basis. And she’s transporting her children in this vehicle that breaks down, is unreliable and only has 2 seatbelts, one of which was gerryrigged. That’s not safe. It’s irresponsible to expect a family to be safe in such a car. I’m sorry if it sounds ungrateful but it’s the truth. You’re right, it was free- but with the repairs that this thing is likely to require due to its age and condition, it’s not free. MM can’t afford to replace all seatbelts and have cash on hand just in case this thing breaks down on her way to or back from KC. And what if its raining or snowing and she’s stranded for god knows how long with Ian in tow? It’s simply NOT practical or safe or reliable.
If all that was wrong was that it was ugly, I know she would get over the appearance but its more than that. If it has been 10 or even 15 years old that would have been better but that van is 27 years old. I was in middle school. Not many vehicles are reliable and sound once they hit the 20 year mark so yeah, I don’t blame her for being disappointed and upset. She needed a reliable car- instead she got what will likely be more headache and expenses.
Just my 2 cents. I mean no disrespect and I get your point but you need to look at the overall picture.
Michelle | December 30, 2012 | 12:54 pm
Michelle it didnt break down it has 2 gas tanks and one ran out of gas. And MM said in this post that her son says it runs great. The seatbelt thing sucks but is cheaper than buying a new car. So it runs great and the only thing I’ve seen mentioned after the gas tank issue was cleared up is how the van looks and that’s why I commented what I did. I mean no disrespect either
Edie | December 30, 2012 | 1:59 pm
Old is the key.
Personally, I was totally shocked that anyone would think a 27 year old vehicle was safe to give to anyone who had to depend on it to transport a family any distance, much less a family transporting a child in a wheelchair.
Ever had to count on a 20 + year old vehicle? I have. I drove a 1974 Chevy 4X4 shortbed for years because I could not afford anything else. We referred to it as “The Beast”
It was constant battle. Vehicles are not built to last that long and especially do not do well in this part of the country. Basically they rust and deteriorate away under that chassis.I don’t care how well you take care of them…the rust, the cold weather and just plain age..it all takes its toll.
I had to carry tools and a chiltons manual with me and learned how to sit in an engine compartment with the help of my 13 year old daughter and replace an alternator in the parking lot of my grocery store. I had the bolts rust out and break off from under the transmission, and it looked like it had bled to death in my driveway. Fortunately a neighbor took pity on me and rebuilt my tranny for the cost of the parts and filters.I started to smell gas and found that the gas lines had become so brittle from age that they were splitting and leaking gas n several places…the starter dropped because a bolt dropped out and I had to reset a starter in the same damned grocery store parking lot.The rear axle broke, the bolt in the steering arm rusted out and broke off with and I almost lost control. That was it..it was just NOT safe. I got rid of the damned thing and went without a vehicle for some time.
I agree with Angie, take the lift out, put it in something dependable and move on.
Wendy (the other one) | December 30, 2012 | 7:32 pm